Comments on: Gay Marriage http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/speedo/gay-marriage/ Gay Blog - Speedo Blog - 23yo Bisexual Aussie - Bisexual Blog Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:01:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: raulito http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/speedo/gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-28966 raulito Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:51:09 +0000 http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/?p=1647#comment-28966 The way I see it there is no way to placate the religious right. They are wrong in assuming that because they are a majority they can impose their religious views on everyone. America is all about the majority rules but minorities have rights. If we let them define marriage for us then we are admitting of being inferior or second class and worse, not worthy in the eyes of the Creator. How dare they? Who told them they were better because they stick a dick into a dirty cunt? What makes them think that the Creator didn't have a purpose for me? just a thought.. saludos, raulito The way I see it there is no way to placate the religious right. They are wrong in assuming that because they are a majority they can impose their religious views on everyone. America is all about the majority rules but minorities have rights.
If we let them define marriage for us then we are admitting of being inferior or second class and worse, not worthy in the eyes of the Creator. How dare they?
Who told them they were better because they stick a dick into a dirty cunt? What makes them think that the Creator didn’t have a purpose for me?
just a thought..
saludos,
raulito

]]> By: Ted http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/speedo/gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-28558 Ted Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:51:17 +0000 http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/?p=1647#comment-28558 Considering that the majority of those who are oppposed to gay marriage are conservatives, Republicans and religious fundamentalists, it puzzles me a lot more as to why you support them. You seem to have a great dislike for Obama even though gays and lesbians (GLBT) overwhelmingly voted for him and the Democrats. Maybe you can shed some more light about this. I certainly despise the Republicans and their ilk. They are behind the opposition against many gay-friendly policies like equal rights and anti-hate laws. Considering that the majority of those who are oppposed to gay marriage are conservatives, Republicans and religious fundamentalists, it puzzles me a lot more as to why you support them. You seem to have a great dislike for Obama even though gays and lesbians (GLBT) overwhelmingly voted for him and the Democrats. Maybe you can shed some more light about this. I certainly despise the Republicans and their ilk. They are behind the opposition against many gay-friendly policies like equal rights and anti-hate laws.

]]> By: admin http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/speedo/gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-28556 admin Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:42:26 +0000 http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/?p=1647#comment-28556 To the last commenter, I completely agree with you and even the fact that this discussion is taking place shows how backwards some people are. However, I like democracy and 31 times 'Gay Marriage' has been voted against by a majority of the people. So far the that has proved within the constitution and what that says to me is that the majority of the population aren't ready for 'Gay Marriage'. My point in the post was that if society isn't ready for 'Gay Marriage' (which in time I have no doubt will be) then the legal rights and responsibilities that go along with marriage should be persued until society has caught up. This is a wonderful discussion and thank you for taking the time to comment. Dave To the last commenter,

I completely agree with you and even the fact that this discussion is taking place shows how backwards some people are.

However, I like democracy and 31 times ‘Gay Marriage’ has been voted against by a majority of the people. So far the that has proved within the constitution and what that says to me is that the majority of the population aren’t ready for ‘Gay Marriage’.

My point in the post was that if society isn’t ready for ‘Gay Marriage’ (which in time I have no doubt will be) then the legal rights and responsibilities that go along with marriage should be persued until society has caught up.

This is a wonderful discussion and thank you for taking the time to comment.

Dave

]]> By: WheresFedererinaspeedo http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/speedo/gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-28555 WheresFedererinaspeedo Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:42:06 +0000 http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/?p=1647#comment-28555 "Call it a civil union or any name other than marriage so that gay couples get the same rights as married couples in all legal aspects." This will never work, because the term marriage by itself has those rights automatically associated with it legally which the term "civil unions" does not. Civil unions require a whole new set of laws that do not give you the same things marriage does. You don't get to cut and paste the marriage laws into a new document that now says "Gay Civil Unions" and call it a day. Using a different word just continues to allow others to define our relationships as illegitimate in comparison to heterosexual ones. Not only that, it gives lawmakers free-reign to write anything into law that they desire and call it a civil union. Furthermore, calling them civil unions does not stop big money christian conservative jerkwads from fighting them- they will fight to bring down anything that even remotely legitimizes gay relationships. Plus, the term "everything but marriage", the euphemism for this gay rights legislation, only continues to define us as an other, on the outside of the "normal" world. It will not help anyone see gay marriages as anything other than less than a heterosexual marriage. And that old-as-the-hills adage about "marriage is what str8 people do- and I'm not str8 so I don't want what they have" is not refreshing in the slightest. It's just plain stupid, and has never been anything but. Marriage is NOT the sole property of heterosexuals and never has been, so please don't validate this idiotic pseudo-substitute for subcultural autonomy that rejects marriage because it's "str8". If you want to pledge a lifetime legal, spiritual, and emotional commitment to the person you love, that is a marriage whether you call it that or not. “Call it a civil union or any name other than marriage so that gay couples get the same rights as married couples in all legal aspects.”

This will never work, because the term marriage by itself has those rights automatically associated with it legally which the term “civil unions” does not. Civil unions require a whole new set of laws that do not give you the same things marriage does. You don’t get to cut and paste the marriage laws into a new document that now says “Gay Civil Unions” and call it a day. Using a different word just continues to allow others to define our relationships as illegitimate in comparison to heterosexual ones. Not only that, it gives lawmakers free-reign to write anything into law that they desire and call it a civil union. Furthermore, calling them civil unions does not stop big money christian conservative jerkwads from fighting them- they will fight to bring down anything that even remotely legitimizes gay relationships.

Plus, the term “everything but marriage”, the euphemism for this gay rights legislation, only continues to define us as an other, on the outside of the “normal” world. It will not help anyone see gay marriages as anything other than less than a heterosexual marriage. And that old-as-the-hills adage about “marriage is what str8 people do- and I’m not str8 so I don’t want what they have” is not refreshing in the slightest. It’s just plain stupid, and has never been anything but. Marriage is NOT the sole property of heterosexuals and never has been, so please don’t validate this idiotic pseudo-substitute for subcultural autonomy that rejects marriage because it’s “str8″. If you want to pledge a lifetime legal, spiritual, and emotional commitment to the person you love, that is a marriage whether you call it that or not.

]]> By: oldspeedo http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/speedo/gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-28540 oldspeedo Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:50:10 +0000 http://www.aussiespeedoguy.com/?p=1647#comment-28540 You've got it exactly right, Dave.....the legal rights issue is key to this whole argument. Call it a civil union or any name other than marriage so that gay couples get the same rights as married couples in all legal aspects. This will placate the religeous right. The couples themselves can call the union anything they want. As Dr. Phil states, there are several churches that recognize same sex unions. You’ve got it exactly right, Dave…..the legal rights issue is key to this whole argument. Call it a civil union or any name other than marriage so that gay couples get the same rights as married couples in all legal aspects. This will placate the religeous right. The couples themselves can call the union anything they want. As Dr. Phil states, there are several churches that recognize same sex unions.

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